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#202: Michael Jongeneel - CEO of FMO - win-win-win leadership, climate and inequality, vulnerability, reflection and purpose

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Michael Jongeneel has been the CEO of FMO since September 2021. The Dutch development bank manages a portfolio of more than €15 billion and invests in the private sector across more than 85 emerging markets worldwide, with a strong focus on climate action, reducing inequality, and sustainable economic growth.

Michael studied Business Information Technology at the University of Twente and started his career in consulting at Accenture and later McKinsey & Company. In 2007, he joined Triodos Bank, where he held several executive roles, including Chief Operating Officer and Managing Director of Triodos Investment Management. After eight years at Triodos, he became a partner at Bain & Company, where he founded the global sustainability practice for financial services and advised leading banks and insurers on the climate transition and sustainable finance.

Beyond his professional career, Michael has long been active in the social and non-profit sector. Among other roles, he served as treasurer of Oxfam International and was treasurer of Giro555 for seven years. He lives near Utrecht, is married, and has two children.

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Books mentioned in the episode:
The Untethered Soul, Michael A. Singer

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Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (supervisory board member, including at Rabobank and Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Value8), Barbara Baarsma (CEO Rabo Carbon Bank), Jan van Rutte (C supervisory board member, including at Rabobank and Achmea), Marguerite Soeteman-Reijne (Chair Aon Holdings), Lidwin van Velden (CEO Nederlandse Waterschapsbank), Jan-Willem van der Schoot (CEO Mastercard NL), Joanne Kellermann (Chair PFZW), Steven Maijoor (former Chair ESMA), Radboud Vlaar (CEO Finch Capital), Jos Baeten (CEO a.s.r.), Karin van Baardwijk (CEO Robeco), Annette Mosman (CEO APG).

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Extra episode: Live from OWIN26 – Maarten Lindner (Rabobank) & Kurt Vanhee (Objectway) on innovation, legacy systems, and scaling client experience

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Last month, Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they engaged with C-level leaders and senior decision-makers from across the European financial services industry.

In this episode, host Kees de Wit speaks with Maarten Lindner (Lead Investment Products at Rabobank) and Kurt Vanhee (CEO Continental Europe at Objectway) about what it really takes to drive innovation in a complex financial landscape.

They explore the tension between innovation and legacy systems, why data and infrastructure form the true foundation for transformation, and how large institutions balance agility with scale amid increasing regulation. The conversation also highlights the importance of a long-term “North Star” vision, the realities of modernizing client journeys, and why innovation in finance is never a finished process—but a continuous journey.

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Thursday May 07, 2026

Extra episode: Live from OWIN26 – Karl de Borger (KBC Securities Services), Thomas de Nil (vdk bank) & Kurt Vanhee (Objectway) on trust, partnerships, and AI-driven operating models

Thursday May 07, 2026

Last month, our colleagues Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they engaged with senior leaders from across the European financial services industry on the future of operating models, partnerships, and innovation.

In this episode, host Tom van Disseldorp speaks with Karl de Borger (Head of Sales and Relationship Management at KBC Securities Services), Thomas de Nil (Head of Savings and Investments at vdk bank), and Kurt Vanhee (CEO Continental Europe at Objectway) about what it takes to build successful partnerships in an increasingly complex financial ecosystem.

Together, they discuss why trust and accountability are becoming increasingly important in partner ecosystems, how banks and wealth managers are dealing with growing complexity behind the scenes, and what changing client expectations mean for the future of the industry. They also reflect on consolidation in the market, the rise of AI-driven operations, and why technology should ultimately create more space for personal client relationships rather than less.

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Wednesday May 06, 2026

#201: Hans den Hoedt – Goldman Sachs Nederland – bouwen van 0 naar 600 medewerkers, cultuur zonder silo’s, werken op topniveau en de kracht van nieuwsgierigheid

Wednesday May 06, 2026

Hans den Hoedt werkt al zo’n 30 jaar in investment banking. Hij studeerde Business Economics and Finance aan de Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam en begon zijn carrière in 1995 bij ABN AMRO, waar hij doorgroeide tot Managing Director.

Na een periode als Managing Director bij de Royal Bank of Scotland stapte hij in 2010 over naar Goldman Sachs. Vanuit Londen leidde hij daar jarenlang capital markets voor West-Europa. In 2020 opende hij het kantoor van Goldman Sachs in Amsterdam. Vandaag is Hans Head of Investment Banking en Country Head Nederland bij Goldman Sachs.

Hans is 57 jaar, woont in Londen en Amsterdam, is getrouwd en heeft samen met zijn vrouw drie kinderen.

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Boeken genoemd in de aflevering:
The Choice – Edith Eger

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Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB), Onno Ruding (Voormalig minister van Financiën), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Bestuursvoorzitter AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (Commissaris o.a. Rabobank en Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Value8), Barbara Baarsma (CEO Rabo Carbon Bank), Jan van Rutte (Commissaris PGGM, BNG Bank; voormalig CFO ABN AMRO), Marguerite Soeteman-Reijne (Chair Aon Holdings), Lidwin van Velden (CEO Nederlandse Waterschapsbank), Jan-Willem van der Schoot (CEO Mastercard NL), Joanne Kellermann (Chair PFZW), Steven Maijoor (Voormalig Chair ESMA), Radboud Vlaar (CEO Finch Capital), Jos Baeten (CEO a.s.r.), Karin van Baardwijk (CEO Robeco), Annette Mosman (CEO APG).

Sunday May 03, 2026

Extra episode: Live from OWIN26 – Karl Im Brahm (Objectway) & Eric van der Deijl (ABN AMRO) on AI, resilience, and large-scale transformation

Sunday May 03, 2026

Last month, our colleagues Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they spoke with C-level leaders and senior decision-makers from across the European financial services industry.

In this extra episode of Leaders in Finance, Tom speaks with Eric van der Deijl, Country Operating Officer Germany at ABN AMRO, and Karl Im Brahm, CEO DAG Region at Objectway.

They reflect on the first days of OWIN26 and discuss topics that are high on the agenda for many financial institutions today: efficiency, resilience, and the practical impact of AI. The conversation also touches on ABN AMRO’s integration of Hauck Aufhäuser Lampe and what it takes to manage complexity in large transformation programs.

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Wednesday Apr 29, 2026

#200: Mikael Björknert - CEO of PrivatBank Ukraine - banking in wartime, leadership under fire, resilience, reconstruction and 18 million customers

Wednesday Apr 29, 2026

As we mark the 200th episode of the Leaders in Finance Podcast, we are honoured to welcome Mikael Björknert.

Mikael Björknert became CEO of PrivatBank on 20 January 2025. He now leads Ukraine’s largest state owned bank, serving more than 18 million active customers, with over 70% of Ukrainians using its services.

He brings more than 25 years of experience in the financial sector. Before taking the helm at PrivatBank in Kyiv, he held several senior leadership positions at Swedbank, including Head of Swedish Banking, where he was responsible for one of the bank’s core business areas. He also served as Chairman of Bankgirot and as a board member of Nasdaq in Sweden.

Mikael holds a Bachelor of Business Administration from Uppsala University. He is 59 years old, lives in Kyiv, and is married with two children.

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Books mentioned in this episode:
The Gates of Europe, Serhii Plokhy

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Wednesday Apr 29, 2026

#199: Jeroen Broekema - Co-founder Leaders in Finance - geïnterviewd door Twan Huys - drijfveren achter succes, macht, gezin, competitie en grootste ambities

Wednesday Apr 29, 2026

Jeroen Broekema is de oprichter en vaste host van de Leaders in Finance Podcast. In deze bijzondere 199e aflevering draaien de rollen om en wordt hij zelf geïnterviewd door Twan Huys.

Het is een traditie geworden, bij de 99e aflevering was de interviewer Jort Kelder. Dat was op 7 maart 2022.

Voor de start van Leaders in Finance werkte hij zeven jaar bij ABN AMRO, was hij vijf jaar actief in de fintechsector als Managing Director van Funding Circle en studeerde hij in Leiden en aan London School of Economics. Inmiddels is Leaders in Finance uitgegroeid tot hét platform in de financiële sector voor podcasts, events en trainingen.

In dit gesprek gaat het over de drijfveren achter succes, zijn jeugd en opvoeding, de competitie met zijn broers, ondernemerschap en ambitie. Ze spreken over macht en leiderschap, wat Jeroen leerde van bijna 200 gesprekken met CEO’s en bestuurders, en hoe hij kijkt naar gezin, vaderschap en balans.

Daarnaast vertelt Jeroen over zijn visie op Leaders in Finance, zijn fascinatie voor de financiële sector en waarom zelfkennis uiteindelijk belangrijker is dan status of carrière.

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Sunday Apr 19, 2026

Extra episode: live from the Leaders in Finance Wealth Management Event 2026 with Boudewijn Chalmers (EY), Yorick Naeff (ABN AMRO), Jessica Rog (Rabobank), Thijs Buitenhuis (Norbury Capital)

Sunday Apr 19, 2026

Following an inspiring Leaders in Finance Wealth Management event, we continued the conversation in a reflections podcast on one of the defining themes for the industry today: Volatility, Velocity & Value, Redesigning Wealth Management for the next generation.

Markets are becoming more unpredictable, client expectations are evolving rapidly, and the pace of change continues to accelerate. Wealth managers are navigating increasing complexity while clients demand more personalised, technology-enabled and trust-based advice.

In our podcast, hosted by Marije Tolsma-Groen, we reflected on key takeaways from event together with:

Boudewijn Chalmers (EY)
Yorick Naeff (ABN AMRO)
Jessica Rog (Rabobank)
Thijs Buitenhuis (Norbury Capital)

A big thank you to all speakers and our event partners for making this such a valuable exchange of perspectives.

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Wednesday Apr 08, 2026

#198: Thomas Vles - Founder and CEO of GoDutch - building from frustration, transparency in banking, vulnerability, and scaling fast without a marketing budget

Wednesday Apr 08, 2026

Thomas Vles is a serial entrepreneur with a background in e-commerce and startups. He first gained international attention in 2013 with Poopy Cat, a company built around sustainable disposable cardboard litter boxes and modular cat products. In 2015, to mark the UK launch, he cycled from Amsterdam to London with his two cats in a cargo bike, a stunt that drew media attention around the world.

After selling Poopy Cat in 2017, he started investing in and advising startups through BlueBottle Ventures. He later spent a year as Managing Director of the Dutch Startup Association, before moving into fintech in 2021 as CEO of Tellow. From 2023 onwards, he served as Chief Revenue Officer at Shine, formerly known as Ageras.

Since May 2024, he has been building GoDutch. It is not a traditional bank, but a fintech platform that aims to make business banking fairer by sharing part of its income with entrepreneurs, while also taking away much of the administrative hassle.

Thomas first studied Physics and Astrophysics at the University of Amsterdam, before switching to Psychology at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, where he completed two master’s degrees. He is 41 years old, lives in Amsterdam, is married, and has two children.

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Books mentioned in this episode:
The Daily Stoic, Ryan Holiday

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Thursday Apr 02, 2026

#197: Johann Kaemingk - grondlegger van Optiver - ondernemerschap, de beginjaren van de optiehandel, geloof, gezin en langetermijndenken

Thursday Apr 02, 2026

Johann Kaemingk is een van de grondleggers van Optiver. In 1986 richtte hij het bedrijf op in Amsterdam, waar het begon als een klein team van handelaren op de beursvloer. Sindsdien is Optiver uitgegroeid tot een wereldwijde market maker met meer dan 2200 medewerkers, die liquiditeit verschaft aan financiële markten over de hele wereld.

Johann heeft in die ontwikkeling een belangrijke rol gespeeld. In de afgelopen decennia hielp hij Optiver uit te bouwen van een onderneming met wortels op de beursvloer tot het technologiegedreven bedrijf dat het vandaag is. Hij was jarenlang actief in het management, waaronder als Group Chief Risk Officer. In 2020 trad hij terug uit de operationele activiteiten, maar hij bleef wel actief als founder en lid van Optiver’s Executive Committee.

Johann deed Atheneum, is 68 jaar, woont in Zeist en is getrouwd en heeft 7 kinderen en op dit moment 8 kleinkinderen.

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